Episode #2467
Michael Pollan
Books mentioned
How to Change Your Mind
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Cujo
Mentioned by Joe Rogan (host) · at 00:21:38 · ▶︎ Watch this moment on YouTube (approximate)
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Michael Pollan, author and journalist, discusses his new book on consciousness, covering plant intelligence, psychedelics, meditation, and the limits of objective science. The conversation also explores AI consciousness, the gut microbiome's link to mental health, and how constant phone use reduces boredom-driven creativity.
What they talked about
- Psychedelics and the mystery of consciousness
- Plant intelligence and consciousness
- Spotlight vs. lantern consciousness
- Hypnosis and the self
- AI chatbots and human attachment
- AI consciousness and the future of intelligence
- Microbiome and mental health
- Carnivore diet and gut health
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