Episode #2465
Michael Shellenberger
Books mentioned
San Fransicko
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Mirage Men
Mentioned by Michael Shellenberger · at 01:31:34 · ▶︎ Watch this moment on YouTube (approximate)
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The Book of Enoch
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The Bible
Mentioned by Joe Rogan (host) · at 01:58:21 · ▶︎ Watch this moment on YouTube (approximate)
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Apocalypse Never
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Michael Shellenberger, an author, journalist, and free-speech chair at the University of Austin, joins the show. The conversation covers Trump’s foreign policy, the Iran attack, homelessness in San Francisco, and police and ICE raids. It also explores UFOs, government secrecy, the Epstein case, and the debate over whether his death was homicide or suicide.
What they talked about
- US foreign policy and Iran strikes
- Trump's decision-making and advisors
- Voter ID laws and progressive narratives
- SIG P320 accidental discharges and Alex Prattie
- Homelessness industry and California governance
- UAP disclosure and government secrecy
- Christianity, spirituality, and higher power
- Jeffrey Epstein files and intelligence community
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