Episode #2174
Annie Jacobsen
Books mentioned
The Garin Death Ray
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Phenomena
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The Pentagon's Brain
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Surprise, Kill, Vanish
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My Life
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Best Evidence
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Chaos
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War Is a Racket
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The Singularity is Nearer
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Annie Jacobsen, a Pulitzer Prize finalist and investigative journalist, discusses her book 'Nuclear War: A Scenario.' The episode explores the terrifying speed of nuclear conflict, the fragility of deterrence, and historical close calls, while also touching on UFOs as modern myths and the rapid advancement of AI.
What they talked about
- Nuclear war scenario and deterrence failure
- Missile defense limitations and Iron Dome
- Reagan's nuclear reversal and The Day After
- Military-industrial complex and Eisenhower's warning
- AI sentience and potential for governance
- China's technological progress and state control
- ChatGPT in medical diagnosis
- AI and dolphin language decoding
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