Episode #1963
Michael Shellenberger
Books mentioned
The Real Anthony Fauci
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San Fransicko
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Woke Racism
Mentioned by Michael Shellenberger · at 01:15:14 · ▶︎ Watch this moment on YouTube (approximate)
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Dune
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Steve Jobs
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Dopamine Nation
Mentioned by Michael Shellenberger · at 02:44:46 · ▶︎ Watch this moment on YouTube (approximate)
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Michael Shellenberger is a journalist, author, and founder of Public and Environmental Progress. He and Joe Rogan examine platform moderation, free speech, alleged institutional influence, vaccine and COVID-19 policy, and political polarization, alongside nuclear energy, AI risks, cultural decline, Gen X identity, stoicism, and personal values.
What they talked about
- Twitter Files investigation and de-platforming of Trump
- Hunter Biden laptop censorship and government involvement
- COVID-19 vaccine side effects and censorship of information
- Lab leak hypothesis and gain-of-function research funding
- Censorship industrial complex and government-funded disinformation
- Transgender issues and social contagion debate
- AI risks and potential for uncontrolled development
- Nuclear power renaissance and environmental progress
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