Episode #1798
Michael Shellenberger
Books mentioned
Apocalypse Never
Mentioned by Michael Shellenberger · at 00:26:56 · ▶︎ Watch this moment on YouTube (approximate)
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The Scout Mindset
Mentioned by Joe Rogan (host) · at 00:18:27 · ▶︎ Watch this moment on YouTube (approximate)
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Grapes of Wrath
Mentioned by Michael Shellenberger · at 01:15:55 · ▶︎ Watch this moment on YouTube (approximate)
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Michael Shellenberger, an author and president of Environmental Progress, discusses his books and political motivations. The episode examines addiction, homelessness, mental health, public safety, energy policy, and institutional reform in California, including potential approaches to housing, treatment, nuclear power, and personal responsibility.
What they talked about
- San Francisco's drug crisis and supervised use sites
- Pathological altruism and Munchausen syndrome by proxy
- Media trust and the decline of objective journalism
- Anti-human environmentalism and Malthusian views
- Homelessness policy and the need for new institutions
- California's recall election and gubernatorial campaign
- School reform and parental choice
- Viktor Frankl's influence and a statue of responsibility
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