Episode #1736
Tristan Harris & Daniel Schmachtenberger
Books mentioned
1984
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Tristan Harris, former Google design ethicist and Center for Humane Technology co-founder, and Daniel Schmachtenberger, a founding member of the Consilience Project, examine how attention-driven technologies affect democracy and public sensemaking. They discuss AI, CRISPR, cyber weapons, misinformation, polarization, institutional accountability, and possible regulatory, civic, and design responses.
What they talked about
- Social media's ethical influence on attention
- Frances Haugen and Facebook whistleblower controversy
- GPT-3 and AI-generated disinformation
- Decentralized catastrophes and stochastic terrorism
- Social media as national security threat
- Democracy vs. authoritarian tech use
- Metaverse and attention economy
- Psychedelics as a solution to societal issues
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