Episode #1616
Jamie Metzl
Books mentioned
Hacking Darwin
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Futurist and author Jamie Metzl discusses the origins and global consequences of COVID-19, including scientific uncertainty, censorship, geopolitical tensions, and China’s role. He and Joe Rogan also examine genetic engineering, CRISPR, embryo selection, eugenics, human evolution, and space colonization, while considering how governance, democratic values, international cooperation, and investment in human potential could shape the future.
What they talked about
- Morning hot chocolate ritual and health benefits
- WHO failures and China's COVID cover-up
- Debate over lab leak vs. zoonotic origin of COVID
- CRISPR and first genetically modified babies in China
- Ethics of human genetic engineering and eugenics
- China's authoritarian control and global competition
- Polarization, tribalism, and need for open discourse
- Youth-led initiatives for global health and water access
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