Episode #1592
Bryan Fogel
Books mentioned
Red Notice
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Jewtopia
Mentioned by Bryan Fogel · at 01:29:14 · ▶︎ Watch this moment on YouTube (approximate)
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Filmmaker Bryan Fogel discusses his Academy Award-winning documentary Icarus, including Russian state-sponsored doping and the personal and geopolitical consequences of exposing it. He also explains The Dissident, an investigation into Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi’s murder, while reflecting on Saudi Arabia’s crackdown on dissent, streaming platforms’ business ties with the country, and documentary filmmaking’s role in informing the public.
What they talked about
- Icarus documentary and Russian doping scandal
- Gregory Rechenkov's asylum and assassination fears
- Lance Armstrong and doping in cycling
- Future of genetic engineering in sports
- Jamal Khashoggi's murder and The Dissident documentary
- Saudi Arabia's use of Pegasus spyware
- Media platforms avoiding The Dissident due to business interests
- Bryan Fogel's career journey from Icarus to The Dissident
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