Episode #1558
Tristan Harris
Books mentioned
Thinking, Fast and Slow
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Silent Spring
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Reclaiming Conversation
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Bury the Chains
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1984
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Brave New World
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Amusing Ourselves to Death
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Brave New World Revisited
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Tristan Harris, former Google design ethicist and co-founder of the Center for Humane Technology, discusses how engagement-driven technology affects attention, children, mental health, politics, and democracy. He and Joe Rogan examine platform incentives, misinformation, regulation, and design choices, while considering how technology might instead support human flourishing and agency.
What they talked about
- Social Dilemma viewership and impact
- Tech insiders' concerns about manipulation
- Attention economy vs. data competition
- Engagement feeds and 'voodoo doll' algorithms
- Social media's role in polarization and mental health
- Taiwan's approach to digital democracy
- Regulating tech and alternative business models
- AI, consciousness, and existential risks
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