Episode #1442
Shannon O'Loughlin
Books mentioned
Empire of the Summer Moon
Mentioned by Joe Rogan (host) · at 00:00:00
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Son of the Morning Star
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Mein Kampf
Mentioned by Shannon O'Loughlin · at 00:23:39 · ▶︎ Watch this moment on YouTube (approximate)
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Red Earth, White Lies
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Black Elk Speaks
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Shannon O'Loughlin, an attorney and executive director for the Association on American Indian Affairs, joins the show to discuss Native American history and the lasting impacts of U.S. colonial policies. The conversation covers tribal sovereignty, blood quantum, boarding schools, and the repatriation of sacred objects and human remains. They also address cultural and language revitalization, environmental protection, and the need for tribal involvement in government and scientific decisions.
What they talked about
- European diseases decimating Native populations
- Cherokee Nation vs. Georgia and Worcester v. Georgia
- Blood quantum as a federal imposition
- Boarding schools and forced assimilation
- Sacred objects in museums and repatriation
- Economic development on reservations
- Border wall impact on sacred sites
- Need for public education on Native history
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