Episode #1435
Suzanne Santo & Gary Clark Jr.
Books mentioned
I Ching
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The Secret
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Singer-songwriter Suzanne Santo and musician Gary Clark Jr. discuss their friendship, music, songwriting, influences, and the discipline behind creative work. Their conversation ranges from addiction, mental health and psychedelics to financial anxiety, technology, spirituality, and the I Ching, before closing with a performance of Santo’s “Fall For That.”
What they talked about
- Live performance of 'Bad Beast'
- Practicing instruments and violin difficulty
- Origins of music and creative ideas
- Gary Clark Jr.'s guitar sound and studio session
- Insomnia and the Saraset sleep therapy
- Jimi Hendrix and Stevie Ray Vaughan influences
- Suzanne Santo's self-released music career
- Politics, Trump, and authentic communication
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