Episode #1419
Daryl Davis
Books mentioned
Klan-destine Relationships
Mentioned by Daryl Davis · at 00:12:46 · ▶︎ Watch this moment on YouTube (approximate)
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The Bible
Mentioned by Daryl Davis · at 00:28:44 · ▶︎ Watch this moment on YouTube (approximate)
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The Bell Curve
Mentioned by Daryl Davis · at 00:34:43 · ▶︎ Watch this moment on YouTube (approximate)
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R&B and blues musician, author, and activist Daryl Davis discusses his childhood encounter with racism, his interviews with Ku Klux Klan leaders, and his efforts to build relationships that persuaded more than 200 members to leave the organization. He and Joe explore recruitment into extremist groups, ignorance and fear as roots of racism, online radicalization, civil discourse, and the importance of year-round Black history education and support for people leaving white supremacist movements.
What they talked about
- Meeting a KKK member at a bar
- Growing up overseas and avoiding racism
- KKK hierarchy and rituals explained
- Interviewing Grand Dragon Roger Kelly
- Survival mode during a tense motel encounter
- Converting KKK members through friendship
- Collecting KKK robes for a museum
- Reasons people join the Klan
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