Episode #1368
Edward Snowden
Books mentioned
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Edward Snowden discusses his book 'Permanent Record', his background in the intelligence community, and the origins of mass surveillance programs like Stellar Wind. He explains his decision to leak classified information, the challenges of living in exile, and the pervasive data collection by governments and corporations.
What they talked about
- Writing 'Permanent Record' and government lawsuit
- Post-9/11 erosion of rights and surveillance state
- Whistleblowing, Espionage Act, and legal defense
- Life in Russia and operational security
- NSA data collection and lying to Congress
- Intelligence community's power and oversight failures
- Surveillance technology and phone tracking
- Encouraging incremental change for a better future
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