Episode #1297
Phil Demers
Books mentioned
The Deep Self
Mentioned by Phil Demers · at 00:13:27 · ▶︎ Watch this moment on YouTube (approximate)
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Phil Demers, a former marine mammal trainer at Canada’s Marineland, discusses the treatment of captive whales, dolphins, walruses, and bears and his opposition to marine mammal captivity. He also details his litigation and negotiations involving a walrus, John C. Lilly’s communication experiments, and conservation challenges facing Southern Resident killer whales.
What they talked about
- Phil Demers' lawsuit with Marineland
- Captivity of walrus Smooshi
- Orca and dolphin intelligence
- John Lilly's dolphin experiments
- Canadian bill to end whale captivity
- Marineland's animal export to China
- Whale Sanctuary Project
- Dan Bilzerian's pet grizzly bear
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