Episode #1294
Jamie Metzl
Books mentioned
Hacking Darwin
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Genesis Code
Mentioned by Jamie Metzl · at 00:30:52 · ▶︎ Watch this moment on YouTube (approximate)
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Eternal Sonata
Mentioned by Jamie Metzl · at 01:23:57 · ▶︎ Watch this moment on YouTube (approximate)
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Jamie Metzl, a technology futurist, geopolitical expert, novelist, and Atlantic Council senior fellow, discusses the ethical and geopolitical effects of genetic engineering, gene editing, AI, and brain-machine interfaces. The episode also explores technology policy, international standards, public dialogue, and the potential long-term reunification of Korea as emerging technologies reshape society and human agency.
What they talked about
- Cacao ceremonies and self-declared shamanism
- Genetic engineering and embryo selection
- Risks of unequal access to gene editing
- Gene doping in sports and China's Olympic system
- AI and humanoid robots
- Brain-computer interfaces and consciousness uploading
- China's geopolitical strategy and technology competition
- North Korea diplomacy and potential collapse
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